Choosing Gear Ratios for FRC Mechanisms

Core Principle

Speed and torque are inversely proportional. A 4:1 gear reduction gives you 4× the torque but 1/4 the speed.

Gear Ratio = Driven Gear Teeth / Driver Gear Teeth

If ratio = 4:1 (input:output = 1:4):
  Torque → multiplied by 4
  Speed → divided by 4

The Design Process

Step 1: Define Your Goal

Ask these questions:

  • What does this mechanism need to do?
  • How fast does it need to move?
  • How heavy is the load?
  • What’s the time constraint (game-specific)?

Step 2: Calculate Required Output

For each mechanism:

MechanismKey MetricTypical Range
DrivetrainTop speed10-15 ft/s
ElevatorLift speed3-6 ft/s
ArmRotation speed90-180°/sec
IntakeRoll speedFast (1-2 sec)
ShooterRPM3000-6000 RPM

Step 3: Match Motor to Load

NEO Vortex specs (Team 2890’s standard):

  • Free speed: 6784 RPM
  • Stall torque: 3.6 Nm (0.36 kg·m)
  • Peak output: 640W
  • Continuous (40A): ~375W

Work backward from desired output speed:

Required output speed = X RPM
↓ 
Account for mechanism reduction (belts, chains, gears)
↓ 
Calculate motor speed needed
↓ 
Find gear ratio

Drivetrain Gear Ratio Selection (Team 2890)

Team 2890 uses L1 and L3 on MK4i modules with NEO Vortex:

RatioSpeedTorqueUse When
L1 (8.14:1)~14.4 ft/sLowerHigh speed needed, less pushing
L3 (6.12:1)~12.8 ft/sHigherMore pushing power, climbing

L1 = faster, less torque. L3 = slower, more torque.

Swap based on game demands. Field-swappable.

Mechanism Design Guidelines

Elevators / Vertical Motion

Motor → Belt reduction → Sprocket → Chain → Carriage
  • Target: 3-6 ft/s vertical
  • Common ratios: 4:1 to 10:1 per stage
  • Watch for staging — two-stage elevators need compounding reduction

Arms / Swing Motion

Motor → Gearbox → Arm
  • Target: 90-180°/sec rotation
  • Consider start-up torque (gravity fight at low angle)
  • PID control essential for repeatable positioning

Shooters / Flywheels

Motor → Gearbox → Wheel
  • Target: 3000-6000 RPM wheel speed
  • High reduction = more torque at wheel, faster spin-up
  • Common ratio: 3:1 to 5:1

Intake Rollers

Motor → Direct or light reduction → Roller
  • Target: Fast roll-in (under 2 seconds)
  • Low reduction or direct drive works
  • Rubber roller = good grip, no gear reduction needed

Motor Sizing Rules of Thumb

  1. Stall torque > Load torque at worst angle
  2. Free speed > Desired output speed by 2× minimum
  3. Current draw at stall < 80% of breaker rating
  4. Continuous torque > Average load torque

Common FRC Motor/Gearbox Pairings

MotorTypical GearboxOutputUse
NEO VortexBuilt-in 4:11696 RPMDrivetrain, mechanisms
NEO Vortex + planetaryExternal reductionVariableElevators, arms
Falcon 500Integrated1680 RPMDrivetrain, high torque
Kraken X60Integrated~1680 RPMNewer alternative to Falcon

The Calculation

Desired output RPM = X
Motor free RPM = 6784 (NEO Vortex)
Total reduction needed = 6784 / X

Example: Want 600 RPM output
  6784 / 600 = 11.3:1 reduction needed

Split across stages:
  Stage 1 (belt): 3:1
  Stage 2 (gearbox): 4:1
  Total = 12:1 — close to target

Signs You’ve Got It Wrong

  • Too fast / not enough torque: Robot stalls under load, wheels slip
  • Too slow / too much torque: Mechanism moves too slowly to be useful
  • Motor overheating: Too much load for continuous operation — need more reduction or bigger motor
  • Brownouts: Current spikes from stalling — check breaker sizing

For Team 2890 Students

When designing a mechanism:

  1. Define the task — what does it need to do in the game?
  2. Pick the motor — NEO Vortex is standard on 2890
  3. Calculate the speed you need — game constraints (time limits, field size)
  4. Work backward — gear ratio = motor speed / desired output speed
  5. Split across stages — belt + gearbox is easier than single-stage high ratio
  6. Test and tune — PID tuning can fix some speed issues, but wrong gear ratio can’t be fixed with software

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